AGENDA
July 26, 2006
Oak Lodge Sanitary office
Oak Grove, Oregon
7:00 PM -- Call to Order: Dick Jones, Chairperson
ROLL CALL: Bill Bader, Bill Brown, Wilma Brown, Frank Budwill, Sue Conachan, Edith Coulter, Rosemary Crites, George Dietz, Jerry Foy, Bryn Gillem, Chuck Gode, Milo Haas, Thelma Haggenmiller, David Jelinek, Dick Jones, Jim Knapp, Alan Koch, Gloria Koch, Elinor Kuhns, Bill Neels, Elaine Neels, Chuck Petersen, Margaret Pritchard, Paul Savas, Eugene Schoenheit, George Schneider, Eric Shawn, Susan Shawn, Kent Squires, Julie Stanley, Dr. Elton Storment, Bob Waldt, Leonard Waldemar, Don Wake, Suzanne Wake, Roy Wikman and Doug Woods.
7:02 PM – Introduction of Attendees
Name, area of residence and position in the Oak Lodge Community Council, if any.
7:05 PM – Council Reports
Approve minutes of the June 28th meeting.
Treasurer’s Report – Sue Conachan
7:10 PM – Sheriff’s Report – Lt. Chuck Slaney
7:15 PM – District Reports
New Urban High School-Tim King
Clackamas County Fire District #1 – James Nowlin
Oak Lodge Water District – Jim Knapp
Oak Lodge Sanitary District – Kent Squires
Clackamas County Service District CAC – Jim Knapp
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8:00 PM – Land Use Issues for Voting
Introduction of procedures by Chairperson. Eligibility for Voting, Time Limits, presentations by those in favor, the Council’s on-site review and those opposed.
Z0312-06 This is a request to construct a dock and walking trail in the Willamette River Greenway. It is located at 17539 Walta Vista Dr. This parcel is .46 acres and is zoned R-10.
Z0535-06 This is a 2 lot partition with an existing house on one parcel. This is located at 15120 Laurie Av. The area is .48 acres (20,952 and is zoned R-10.
Z0552-06 This is a minor modification of a Greenway conditional use to extend a boat ramp 30 to 40 feet. This is located at 1601 Oak Shore Ln.
Update on Land Use Applications:
Four applications will be heard by the Hearings Officer on August 3rd.
Z0298-06 is an appeal of a staff decision requiring dedication of additional area for roadways.
Z0315-06 is a appeal by a neighbor of a 3-lot partition because of storm water issues.
Z0357-06 is an applicant appeal of a denial of a variance to required area in a R-10 zone.
Z0369-06 is not an appeal but a Hearing on Head Start’s proposal on Rived Rd.
8:40 PM General Matters for Discussion
Sexual Predator update: No new information
Trolley Trail update- Thelma
FUTURE PUBLIC MEETINGS
Council meetings:
July 26, 2006 August 23, 2006 September 27,2006
OLCC/CIA at Rose Villa unless otherwise noted
July 12, 2006 August 9, 2006 September 13, 2006
Special meetings, if required to vote on land use issues, will be held in conjunction with the monthly CIA meeting normally on the second Wednesday of each month.
9:00 PM – Meeting Adjourned
Tuesday, July 25, 2006
Thursday, July 13, 2006
Dubious Climate Science discussion
UPDATE: A mainstream science refutation of global warming prophecy. Ahem.
The Democrat blog Blue Oregon once again tries to beat the drum for global warming, yet neglects some very sound science in making their case. Blue Oregon's co-founder suggests a scientific consensus, but, no, we're not yet there.
There is adequate scientifically based evidence that other factors are at play. Says who? Al Gore:
Most of the climate community has agreed since 1988 that global mean temperatures have increased on the order of one degree Fahrenheit over the past century, having risen significantly from about 1919 to 1940, decreased between 1940 and the early '70s, increased again until the '90s, and remaining essentially flat since 1998, as per an MIT climatologist.
Why the variation? Why the three decade dip when Detroit had NO environmental controls whatsoever? There's better evidence for the recent warming, incontrovertibly provable evidence for an external factor; that fusion reactor 93 million miles away, which has, beyond doubt, been proven to be getting brighter.
A Swiss/German study suggested historic solar output increases cause global climate changes; East Anglians verified it (an essential element of science, replicability). Indirect effects on the ozone layer and cloud cover were cited, which could magnify the hotter sun.
You see, there's one greenhouse gas which is far more powerful than CO2, which no one is doing anything about; dihydrogen monoxide. Yep, water vapor.
Here's a source-referenced analysis of the impact of CO2, methane and other greehouse gases when compared to the impact of dihydrogen monoxide. It should be required reading for anyone wishing to invoke science in this discussion.
You have to double CO2 content to equal what a 10% boost in water vapor does. Therefore, any serious climate control plan requires considering how to make more cirrus (and especially altocirrus) while reducing altocumulus formation.
Not only does dihydrogen monoxide retain heat far better than C02, but it also condenses into clouds. Some clouds trap heat, some reflect it back into space.
That's really what we need to spend resources on; a global thermostat we can alter at will, so when the next Ice Age comes, we can deal with that as well as any excessive warming (and what's excessive to you might not be excessive the the Viking settlers of Greenland; oh, that's right, they froze to death when the last Little Ice Age struck, so they can't complain any more).
There are far cheaper ways to control our climate than the economy-busting Kyoto mutual suicide pact. Forex, if CO2 was proven to be a serious problem once scientifically compared to the impact of dihydrogen monoxide, pay cargo ships to to drop iron filings into the oceans as they go about their travels, which will soaks up a very large amount of CO2 in a non-toxic way.
Lastly, have you considered that Global Warming may not be an unqualified evil? I was taught in Revolutionary History class that Knox was able to sledge cannon from Ticondaroga to Boston via the frozen Hudson River. The Hudson hasn't frozen over for over a century, and there are an awful lot of folks who like it that way.
- And, OBTW, I just bought a biodiesel vehicle, paying a pretty penny for it.. because biodiesel is incontrovertibly cleaner (especially once Mrs. Clackablog helps me figure out the urea injection chemistry to absorb exhaust-stream NOx) than fossil fuel. So, I'm willing to spend to protect the environment, when it makes a difference, if that helps open your eyes to the truth.
Biodiesel: Made in the USA = No War Required.
‘It is important to note the isolation of the paleoclimate community; even though they rely heavily on statistical methods they do not seem to be interacting with the statistical community. Additionally, we judge that the sharing of research materials, data and results was haphazardly and grudgingly done. In this case we judge that there was too much reliance on peer review, which was not necessarily independent. Moreover, the work has been sufficiently politicized that this community can hardly reassess their public positions without losing credibility. Overall, our committee believes that Dr. Mann’s assessments that the decade of the 1990s was the hottest decade of the millennium and that 1998 was the hottest year of the millennium cannot be supported by his analysis.’ – Excerpt from Wegman's report
The Democrat blog Blue Oregon once again tries to beat the drum for global warming, yet neglects some very sound science in making their case. Blue Oregon's co-founder suggests a scientific consensus, but, no, we're not yet there.
There is adequate scientifically based evidence that other factors are at play. Says who? Al Gore:
"(scientists) don't have any models that give them a high level of confidence" (one way or the other)... "(scientists) don't know... They just don't know."- from "An Inconvenient Truth."
Most of the climate community has agreed since 1988 that global mean temperatures have increased on the order of one degree Fahrenheit over the past century, having risen significantly from about 1919 to 1940, decreased between 1940 and the early '70s, increased again until the '90s, and remaining essentially flat since 1998, as per an MIT climatologist.
Why the variation? Why the three decade dip when Detroit had NO environmental controls whatsoever? There's better evidence for the recent warming, incontrovertibly provable evidence for an external factor; that fusion reactor 93 million miles away, which has, beyond doubt, been proven to be getting brighter.
A Swiss/German study suggested historic solar output increases cause global climate changes; East Anglians verified it (an essential element of science, replicability). Indirect effects on the ozone layer and cloud cover were cited, which could magnify the hotter sun.
You see, there's one greenhouse gas which is far more powerful than CO2, which no one is doing anything about; dihydrogen monoxide. Yep, water vapor.
"I can only see one element of the climate system capable of generating these fast, global changes, that is, changes in the tropical atmosphere leading to changes in the inventory of the earth's most powerful greenhouse gas-- water vapor"says Dr. Wallace Broecker, Columbia University, a leading world authority on climate.
Here's a source-referenced analysis of the impact of CO2, methane and other greehouse gases when compared to the impact of dihydrogen monoxide. It should be required reading for anyone wishing to invoke science in this discussion.
You have to double CO2 content to equal what a 10% boost in water vapor does. Therefore, any serious climate control plan requires considering how to make more cirrus (and especially altocirrus) while reducing altocumulus formation.
Not only does dihydrogen monoxide retain heat far better than C02, but it also condenses into clouds. Some clouds trap heat, some reflect it back into space.
That's really what we need to spend resources on; a global thermostat we can alter at will, so when the next Ice Age comes, we can deal with that as well as any excessive warming (and what's excessive to you might not be excessive the the Viking settlers of Greenland; oh, that's right, they froze to death when the last Little Ice Age struck, so they can't complain any more).
There are far cheaper ways to control our climate than the economy-busting Kyoto mutual suicide pact. Forex, if CO2 was proven to be a serious problem once scientifically compared to the impact of dihydrogen monoxide, pay cargo ships to to drop iron filings into the oceans as they go about their travels, which will soaks up a very large amount of CO2 in a non-toxic way.
Lastly, have you considered that Global Warming may not be an unqualified evil? I was taught in Revolutionary History class that Knox was able to sledge cannon from Ticondaroga to Boston via the frozen Hudson River. The Hudson hasn't frozen over for over a century, and there are an awful lot of folks who like it that way.
- And, OBTW, I just bought a biodiesel vehicle, paying a pretty penny for it.. because biodiesel is incontrovertibly cleaner (especially once Mrs. Clackablog helps me figure out the urea injection chemistry to absorb exhaust-stream NOx) than fossil fuel. So, I'm willing to spend to protect the environment, when it makes a difference, if that helps open your eyes to the truth.
Biodiesel: Made in the USA = No War Required.
Saturday, July 08, 2006
Calendar of Public Meetings, Events and Classes for July 2006
Calendar of Public Meetings, Events and Classes for July 2006
Note meeting times and places may change so data should be confirmed in advance.
Monday the 10th
6:30 PM CCSD#1 Wastewater study committee meets at SSC
Tuesday the 11th
8:30 AM Board of Commissioners Study session at Board offices.
6:30 PM Oak Lodge Sanitary Budget monthly Board meeting at Board offices.
Wednesday the 12th
9:00 AM Board of Commissioner’s M37 Hearing in Board Hearing room PSB.
No Citizens, Informed and Aware (CIA) meets at Rose Villa program
Thursday the 13th
10:00 AM Clackamas County Commissioners weekly Board meeting.
10:15 AM Land Use Hearing at Sunnybrook Service Center (SSC), 9101 Sunnybrook Blvd.
Monday the 17th
7:00 PM Fire District No. 1 Board meets at Mt. Scott Fire Station.
Tuesday the 18th
8:30 AM Board of Commissioners Study session at Board offices.
6:00 PM Oak Lodge Sanitary Master Plan Advisory Committee meets at OLSD.
7:00 PM Oak Lodge Water district monthly Board meeting in District offices.
Thursday the 20th
10:00 AM Land Use Hearing at SSC.
Monday the 24th
6:30 PM CCSD#1 Wastewater study committee meets at SSC.
Tuesday the 25th
8:30 AM Board of Commissioners Study session at Board offices.
3-5 PM Transportation Advisory Committee meets room 406 SSC.
5:30 PM NCCWC meets at plant.
6:00 PM NCP&RD meets at Stone Creek Golf Club.
7:00 PM Jennings Lodge CPO meets at Homewoods Heights.
Tuesday the 25th
CPR training at Fire District #1, contact the Fire Prevention Office 503-742-2660. Cost $10 to residents of Fire District #1.
Wednesday the 26th
9:00 AM Board of Commissioner’s M37 Hearing in Board Hearing room PSB.
7:00 PM Oak Lodge Community Council meets at OLSD office.
Thursday the 27th
10:00 AM Clackamas County Commissioners weekly Board meeting.
Farmer's Markets
Saturday, 9:30 AM - 2:30 PM
Oregon City: County Public Service Parking Lot, 2051 Kaen Rd. at Beavercreek Rd
Sunday, 9:30 AM - 2:30 PM
Milwaukie: Across from City Hall, SE Main between Harrison & Jackson.
Note meeting times and places may change so data should be confirmed in advance.
Monday the 10th
6:30 PM CCSD#1 Wastewater study committee meets at SSC
Tuesday the 11th
8:30 AM Board of Commissioners Study session at Board offices.
6:30 PM Oak Lodge Sanitary Budget monthly Board meeting at Board offices.
Wednesday the 12th
9:00 AM Board of Commissioner’s M37 Hearing in Board Hearing room PSB.
No Citizens, Informed and Aware (CIA) meets at Rose Villa program
Thursday the 13th
10:00 AM Clackamas County Commissioners weekly Board meeting.
10:15 AM Land Use Hearing at Sunnybrook Service Center (SSC), 9101 Sunnybrook Blvd.
Monday the 17th
7:00 PM Fire District No. 1 Board meets at Mt. Scott Fire Station.
Tuesday the 18th
8:30 AM Board of Commissioners Study session at Board offices.
6:00 PM Oak Lodge Sanitary Master Plan Advisory Committee meets at OLSD.
7:00 PM Oak Lodge Water district monthly Board meeting in District offices.
Thursday the 20th
10:00 AM Land Use Hearing at SSC.
Monday the 24th
6:30 PM CCSD#1 Wastewater study committee meets at SSC.
Tuesday the 25th
8:30 AM Board of Commissioners Study session at Board offices.
3-5 PM Transportation Advisory Committee meets room 406 SSC.
5:30 PM NCCWC meets at plant.
6:00 PM NCP&RD meets at Stone Creek Golf Club.
7:00 PM Jennings Lodge CPO meets at Homewoods Heights.
Tuesday the 25th
CPR training at Fire District #1, contact the Fire Prevention Office 503-742-2660. Cost $10 to residents of Fire District #1.
Wednesday the 26th
9:00 AM Board of Commissioner’s M37 Hearing in Board Hearing room PSB.
7:00 PM Oak Lodge Community Council meets at OLSD office.
Thursday the 27th
10:00 AM Clackamas County Commissioners weekly Board meeting.
Farmer's Markets
Saturday, 9:30 AM - 2:30 PM
Oregon City: County Public Service Parking Lot, 2051 Kaen Rd. at Beavercreek Rd
Sunday, 9:30 AM - 2:30 PM
Milwaukie: Across from City Hall, SE Main between Harrison & Jackson.
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